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Post by Alex Tran on Sept 12, 2008 18:03:03 GMT -5
The Montreal Canadiens have acquired forward Robert Lang from the Chicago Blackhawks, in return for a second-round selection in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft (acquired from Toronto along with Greg Pateryn, in return for Mikhaïl Grabovski, July 3, 2008). tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=249263&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main |
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Post by Alex Tran on Sept 12, 2008 18:03:57 GMT -5
Solid move by the Habs. The Hawks were desperate to get under the cap, and the Candadiens were there, right place, right time.
A 2010 2nd round pick for a 55-60 point player is definitely a bargain.
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Post by Micheal Aldred on Sept 12, 2008 18:53:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I've always sort of liked the guy. He doesn't really stand out for me, other than the year he rocked the league with the Capitals and was then traded to the Red Wings at the deadline. He was also there when the Penguins did their cup run in 1992 I believe. So he's one of those "last era" players who still have a lot of heart in them. Good pickup for the Habs, he'll be a solid addition to the second line and will provide some good leadership.
That being said, what is with the Habs and Europeans?
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Post by CarltonTheBear on Sept 13, 2008 2:31:44 GMT -5
weak move by the Habs IMO.
I truly believe the Habs could have VERY easily paid less for Lang. The Hawks were in a jam with the cap, everyone knew this. They were trying to get rid of salary, and for the Habs to give up a second pick for essentially a salary dump on the Hawks part is a pretty high price to pay. (I'm not suggesting Lang is only a salary dump, but the fact remains, it was well known Chicago wanted to get his salary off the books.)
I guess this is Montreal giving up on Sardine.
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Post by Lee Denault on Sept 13, 2008 2:39:36 GMT -5
weak move by the Habs IMO. I truly believe the Habs could have VERY easily paid less for Lang. The Hawks were in a jam with the cap, everyone knew this. They were trying to get rid of salary, and for the Habs to give up a second pick for essentially a salary dump on the Hawks part is a pretty high price to pay. (I'm not suggesting Lang is only a salary dump, but the fact remains, it was well known Chicago wanted to get his salary off the books.) I guess this is Montreal giving up on Sardine. Yes, Bob Gainey was quoted saying that they are no longer seeking Sundin. |
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Post by CarltonTheBear on Sept 13, 2008 2:42:03 GMT -5
Yes, Bob Gainey was quoted saying that they are no longer seeking Sundin. If I've learned anything, it is to never take anyone in the sports industry at their word. The Sundin saga has only proven this. |
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Post by Cool Hand Luke on Sept 13, 2008 2:57:07 GMT -5
weak move by the Habs IMO. I truly believe the Habs could have VERY easily paid less for Lang. The Hawks were in a jam with the cap, everyone knew this. They were trying to get rid of salary, and for the Habs to give up a second pick for essentially a salary dump on the Hawks part is a pretty high price to pay. (I'm not suggesting Lang is only a salary dump, but the fact remains, it was well known Chicago wanted to get his salary off the books.) I guess this is Montreal giving up on Sardine. I agree that they 'overpad' for Lang. I think if you look at the past, he wasnt good enough to continue with detroit, for whatever reason. He had some VERy soid seasons from 2000-04 ish, but its been dropping. I guess with most things, only time can tell, but my gut feeling is that hes going to be mediocre, taking up ice-time at the bell center. |
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Post by thatleafsguy on Sept 14, 2008 10:25:23 GMT -5
Look Montreal decided to waste a prime draft pick for a Sundin wannabe. Terrible pick up IMO.
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Post by Alex Tran on Sept 16, 2008 8:05:22 GMT -5
Look Montreal decided to waste a prime draft pick for a Sundin wannabe. Terrible pick up IMO. Well, for the purposes of a Cup run, getting a 50 point player for a 2nd round pick isn't that bad of a deal. |
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Post by thatleafsguy on Sept 16, 2008 22:44:09 GMT -5
Look Montreal decided to waste a prime draft pick for a Sundin wannabe. Terrible pick up IMO. Well, for the purposes of a Cup run, getting a 50 point player for a 2nd round pick isn't that bad of a deal. Seriously, a 2nd round pick for a 37 year old never done anything type player is a waste. He has a big cap hit and limited production, he should have been had for much less. They have enough of these types of guys in Montreal. The Leafs have been ripped in the past for deals like this, when Montreal does it there should be no difference. Terrible deal IMO. |
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Post by Alex Tran on Sept 17, 2008 0:26:38 GMT -5
Well, take a look at what guys like Sutherby, Perreault, Nagy, etc all cost.
Lang is consistently good for 50-60 points, and I'm pretty sure he would've gotten that much at the deadline.
The fact that Montreal gets to pay the same price for a full season as opposed to the last 20 or so games is a plus.
You think he's worth as much as Kilger? Who got a 3rd round pick?
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Post by Micheal Aldred on Sept 17, 2008 1:22:54 GMT -5
Lang is an underated player who's achieved quite a bit over the course of his career, and you put him on a line with anyone and he'll instantly make them better. He's not an injury proned player either, and since Kovalev is an on again off again player, he'll be on the downward slide this season.
Prediction of points for Lang this season: 47 points.
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Post by thatleafsguy on Sept 17, 2008 9:37:33 GMT -5
Well, take a look at what guys like Sutherby, Perreault, Nagy, etc all cost. Lang is consistently good for 50-60 points, and I'm pretty sure he would've gotten that much at the deadline. The fact that Montreal gets to pay the same price for a full season as opposed to the last 20 or so games is a plus. You think he's worth as much as Kilger? Who got a 3rd round pick? None of those players you mentioned came with a 4 million dollar cap hit. 4 million, 50 points, 37 years old and 2nd round pick should never be mentioned in the same sentence. If Lang is worth a 2nd now what is Jason Blake worth? A 1st? 2 2nd's? Less? |
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Post by thatleafsguy on Sept 17, 2008 9:40:26 GMT -5
Lang is an underated player who's achieved quite a bit over the course of his career, and you put him on a line with anyone and he'll instantly make them better. He's not an injury proned player either, and since Kovalev is an on again off again player, he'll be on the downward slide this season. Prediction of points for Lang this season: 47 points. He's never won any individual awards, he's never won a cup, I don't even recall if he has ever played in a cup final or conference final. The guy has been point a game only twice in his career and both times he was playing with Jagr. |
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Post by burn on Sept 17, 2008 9:53:01 GMT -5
Well, take a look at what guys like Sutherby, Perreault, Nagy, etc all cost. Lang is consistently good for 50-60 points, and I'm pretty sure he would've gotten that much at the deadline. The fact that Montreal gets to pay the same price for a full season as opposed to the last 20 or so games is a plus. You think he's worth as much as Kilger? Who got a 3rd round pick? None of those players you mentioned came with a 4 million dollar cap hit. 4 million, 50 points, 37 years old and 2nd round pick should never be mentioned in the same sentence. If Lang is worth a 2nd now what is Jason Blake worth? A 1st? 2 2nd's? Less? Lang has been more consistent throughout his career than Blake, Lang is a career + player and Blake is a - player, plus Lang is a UFA at the end of the year whereas Blake has 3 more years after this year. Blake is worthless!!! We'll never get anything for Blake. We're going to have to waive him/buy him out to get rid of him, and I don't want to buy out anymore players!!! We've got too much money tied up in players that aren't here anymore. |
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